Schools using programs like "websense" are limiting too much of what the students need to see...
Published on December 7, 2004 By MadPyro In Pure Technology
My school in Vancouver, WA has started using websense this year.

web sense is a program that blocks web pages containing any thing that may harm the computers and other things...

problem is... you cant access many sites that may be useful for research like "extremist" sites... i am wondering if there is any thing that i can do to go around web sense so that i can do normal browsing...

i have heard of going to proxy enabled sites and using babel fish but i am either too uneducated to use the proxy sites or dont want to sign up for aditional services...

any way that i can go around it?

thanks

Comments
on Dec 07, 2004
Well if you go to http://world.altavista.com/ and stick a url into the translate a web page it will take you there. Will that get you around websense? No idea. But the more important question might be why are you trying to get around websense? I would suspect that the teachers have a way around it and would approve of legitamite research and assist you. Course, I've dealt with enough foolishness at school that I could understand them not being helpful too.
on Dec 07, 2004
Doubtful. Not only do they block web sites, they also block web content. And going to someplace like google might help as long as the cached pages do not contain any of the key words that are blocked. Best thing to do is to surff at home.

I installed one of these (it was Bess) at a local School Division. There filters are not too smart, but very thorough. So that they students could not browse to a neighboring school district, Middlesex. The administrators can unblock sites and or even users. But I suspect you are going to need a hell of a lot of justification as it is not a technical thing, it is very political.
on Dec 07, 2004
I would caution you against trying to find a way around the software set up on the schools computers. Very often the software is set up for very good reasons, as you state (viruses, spyware, etc). Also, the software is very often set up to enforce the terms of use standards set up by the school. So going around the software could violate the terms of use and get you into trouble. Using one of the proxy sites may set off a warning in the computer office and then they could monitor what you're watching. If it is something they don't want on their systems it could get you into trouble.

As for what is right and wrong when it comes to off limits topics, well that's a completely different debate, but the school probably doesn't want to be seen as allowing access to or promoting sites that are dedicated to extremist groups, among other things.

Unfortunately, this does affect research. I would say that your best two courses of action are -

1. Find an alternate place to surf. Internet cafe. Public library. Home. You might be able to find what you need there.

2. Request permission through the schools computer office to have a site removed from the blacklist either temporarily or permanently. You're more likely to get a temp removal than a permanent one. Then you'd be able to check out the site, get what info you need, print it out and do your work. They probably have a system set up for this already, but if they don't, it should be easy to do. You'll probably need to provide some justification and maybe even get backed up by your instructor. And then they could set up a session for you to take care of your business and then put the site back on their blacklist. Everybody wins.

Either way, you're not putting yourself in a position to break rules that may exist and get yourself into trouble for trying to do legitimate work.
on Dec 07, 2004

Either way, you're not putting yourself in a position to break rules that may exist and get yourself into trouble for trying to do legitimate work.

yeah...but where's the fun in that?  

on Dec 07, 2004
reason i am trtying to get around the websense is because i want to play games in my free time and i cant because of this.... lol thanks for the suggestion danny... will try it at school tomorrow
on Dec 07, 2004
Games at school, careful with that, good way to get in trouble. Or hired to run the schools network, which is just another sort of trouble...
on Dec 07, 2004
Most public libraries allow unfiltered access. Have you tried one of them?

(This coming from a guy who thinks kids shouldn't be allowed on the Internet and that libraries shouldn't allow them unfiltered access? What am I doing?!)
on Dec 07, 2004
the thing is, as a senior... there is nothing to do at school but i have to wait out my 6 hours of school so i figure hey! wth, i might as well have some fun
on Dec 08, 2004

good way to get in trouble. Or hired to run the schools network, which is just another sort of trouble...

yikes!  it's way more dangerous than id realized

on Dec 08, 2004

(This coming from a guy who thinks kids shouldn't be allowed on the Internet and that libraries shouldn't allow them unfiltered access? What am I doing?!)

shhhh just cash the check youre being sent from the eroding 8 millenia of civilization foundation when it arrives.  your efforts on our behalf are appreciated. 

on Dec 09, 2004
yup... finally got to install UT2004 demo on the computers so school isnt as boring as they say nowadays gonna get even more exciting when the administration figures this out
on Jan 13, 2005
here's an idea... do that crap at home... try doing school work at school...
on Jan 14, 2005
the thing is, as a senior... there is nothing to do at school but i have to wait out my 6 hours of school so i figure hey! wth, i might as well have some fun


you don't have a Ti-83?