'ello. i am going to start coding in VB and then C++ but first i need to know if there are any free applications for thaT? please help because i searched and couldnt find. thanks!
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on Jan 05, 2005
Not that I know of.
on Jan 05, 2005
There are several free C++ compilers. I think the most famous one is gcc/g++. Do a search for it. Also, Borland is having a free C++ compiler, do a search on the borland homepage.
on Jan 05, 2005
Dev C++ is one free C++ program that isn't bad at all from Bloodshed.net. When I used it is never really found errors right, but it does work.
http://bloodshed.net/

My suggestion is to pick up a nice VB or C++ book first with a CD, as that could bring you through the learning process as well as show you the code on the CD (which usually has a compiler).
on Jan 05, 2005
i was interested in learning these coding languages, however my dad (an ex-computer programmer) said that c++ is quite hard and isnt used in many things anymore. he says that visual basic will be the way forward in the future because of its ease to use. im not sure of any free coding programs, as i havnt looked, but DoctorNick's suggestion of getting a book first is a top idea, as this is how i will be learning visual basic myself
on Jan 05, 2005
yeah thanks all especially doctor nick! thanks for the link i will try to get a book on it sometime soon hopefully
on Jan 06, 2005
http://www.thefreecountry.com/compilers/cpp.shtml

http://www.soft32.com/download_27184.html

I am downloading these as we speak. Also check out http://desktopxscript.proboards42.com/index.cgi

This is my desktopX, etc... scripting message board I will add more freeware/shareware compilers and error checkers there. I would like to get a community of scripters to help each other or share ideas to have your idea made and recognised. post it on the board. This is a new board so there are not many members yet. I am looking for help also. Anyway
Hope those help.
Greywolf
on Jan 06, 2005
you could always try using Bittorrent, if you can find a site that is still offering torrents. I got Visual Basic 6 Enterprise Edition using BT.
on Jan 06, 2005
Wouldn't that be a bit... immoral?
on Jan 06, 2005
c++ is quite hard and isnt used in many things anymore



I think this is a bit off. C++ may be used for less these days but I would hardly say that it isn't used much anymore. Every application with the exception of 1 new web based app where I work continues to be developed using C++ and I have several friends who do C++ development for other companies. If I'm not mistaken WB is written in C++ and it wouldn't surprise me if DX and all the other SD apps are too. I definitely agree that with languages like Java and now all of the .NET languages C++ is becoming more of a relic, however I don't think we'll see C++ die out completely for a long long time..

Just my .02
on Jan 06, 2005
Hmm, I would have to agree with Develper f0r3, C++, to my knowledge is still used quite a bit. Windows isn't the only OS that is out there, and .NET is very targeted towards Windows. Although it can be a little challenging, if you are interested in learning and using it, I doubt very much that any knowledge gained would be useless. (Although I would stay away from Pascal, Cobol and the likes!) M$oft would like everyone to switch to .NET, but I don't see that happening for a long time, take DoctorNicks advice - there are quite a few good introductions to programming that come with compilers, browse your local (or semi-local) bookstore and see which one is written in a manner that you like. Chacun son gout! (To each his own [taste])
on Jan 06, 2005
sweet thanks guys!
on Jan 06, 2005
If I'm not mistaken WB is written in C++ and it wouldn't surprise me if DX and all the other SD apps are too. I definitely agree that with languages like Java and now all of the .NET languages C++ is becoming more of a relic, however I don't think we'll see C++ die out completely for a long long time..


You are correct! Most, if not all of Stardock programs are created in C++. To say that C++ is heading south is a bit short. Languages such as C# is improving the choices for those who program in C++ but it certainly does not remove the channel in which C++ is used. Really, C++ isn't going anyway soon. Not by a long shot.

I would recommend starting with learning Visual Basic, the concepts used and then ask your self if you want to go further. Then pick up a C++ book and start programming! What you'll learn from VB (and .NET) will make learning C++ easier. From there, simply learning the syntax is all that is really required. Especially if you have experience with .NET. It breaks down to what you feel more comfortable doing.